A Hometown Baseball Legend

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The Owingsville Giants.  Nathan Redmond is third from the left in the back row. Photo courtesy of The Bath County Outlook.

My father-in-law, William Burl Kincaid, Jr., was a huge baseball fan. Well . . . he was more like a fanatic.  Some of my fondest memories are of going with him to watch his beloved St. Louis Cardinals play their exhibition games in Louisville and watching them play their championship games on TV in his living room. This was back in the 1980’s when they boasted such players as Willie McGee and the outstanding Ozzie Smith. There was one hometown player from the 1920’s that he thought ranked right up with these greats. ~ Ginger

From his journals:

Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Stan Musial, and Willie Mays. If you love baseball, you have heard of the exploits of these baseball players, but have you heard the name Nathan Redmond?  This man was legend around Owingsville. To begin with, he was endowed with a fine physique.  He stood about six-two and was well proportioned.

Nathan, in his younger days, was noted as a pitcher with a blazing, screaming fast ball. Today, baseball fans would say that he threw “heat.”   Many batters – good hitters – were caught with their bats on their shoulders.  Of some that did swing, it was too late because of the velocity of his pitch.

Nathan, like many pitchers today, unfortunately developed arm trouble and that blaze he had thrown was slowed down.  Being a great hitter (especially of the long ball), Nathan began to play first base and was a standout there.  

The author saw him play many times and on occasions remembers the left-handed batter hitting one that rolled across U.S. 60 from Kimbrough Park.*

Had Nathan Redmond lived now or in recent years, those who remember him feel that he would have starred as a big leaguer.  In his day, Nathan could not have been a National League or American League player because of his color.

Some of you remember the men who played with Nathan.  To name a few – Jim Reid, Jerry Lacy, Bob Foley, Dusty Stewart, Diner Gray, and Lawrence Berry. **

* Kimbrough Park was located in the vicinity where the Southern States lot is and across from Steve Butcher’s car lot on U.S. 60 East.

**I’m not completely sure the names Dusty and Diner are correct as those words are difficult to make out in the text. If they are wrong, please make a comment or drop me a note.

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A news clipping from July 18, 1921 edition of  The Public Ledger (Maysville, Ky). Image courtesy of the University of Kentucky via The Library of Congress.

Doctor Byron’s House Gets Built and Other Tidbits from Miss Jane.

From Miss Jane on Friday morning, June 3rd, 1949:

Dearest Son,

     How are you this lovely morning? I got up early  and put sulphur on my roses and Aunt May’s. We have had lovely roses, in all colors. It is really dry in some places in the county, for the last rain seemed to be rather local. We haven’t had the showers yet that the weatherman has promised us.

     I am overseeing Aunt May’s house-cleaning.  She has Charlie D. and Mrs. Reynolds both today. Had Charlie D. yesterday and Mrs. Reynolds the day before – so hope to get it all done today but her room. The upstairs was a sight, together with the presses – but is clean now. Uncle Henry’s room is ready for kemtone [a paint].
     I haven’t been up town since I last wrote you, so don’t know any news.  Haven’t seen Ella.
     Tomorrow is Larue’s wedding day, so Blanche* is quite disturbed – says she isn’t going to cry.
     Burl [Sr.] says Dr. Bryon’s house is going up fast – I want to walk up there late this afternoon and probably up town.
     We are expecting Uncle Rube tomorrow – on his “flying trip.” Why didn’t you come along? ha!
      Burl and Banks [Thompson] went fishing yesterday afternoon, but no luck.
     Now Sugar, I will try to write more tomorrow.
     Aunt May is still improving.  We are just fine.  Daddy said at the supper-table that he felt better than he had for quite a while.

Lots of love, Mother

*We’re not sure who Larue is or why Blanche was disturbed.  It took us forever to figure out that Blanche was a nurse hired by the family to live in the house and care for Aunt May.  We found that from a census record.

An early ad for Kem-Tone paint. 

The Owingsville Panthers

From the journals about a basketball team that he played on. He and his teammates would have been between 18 and 21.

Prior to the 1935-36 basketball season, a group of young men organized a semi pro team. After much discussion regarding organization, uniforms, transportation, finances, and team name, it was apparent from our first talks that we would like a name not being used much in our area so we chose the name “Panthers.”  Having attractive, colorful uniforms required much input from the squad members. Finally, we selected crimson and gray (Ohio State University colors) which made a very striking outfit.  Our warm-up jackets were crimson with gray sleeves and they had a Panther head to the left on the chest.  Fortunately, we knew Roy Kissick who was the proud owner of a huge Cadillac(with jump seats) and would transport our team. On occasions he would crowd 13 in that fine car.

The Panthers scheduled several independent or semi-pro teams in this area, such as Paris, Camargo, Morehead CCC, Carlisle, Little Rock and others.  We won more than half of the games we played.

The Panther Squad

Coach Morgan Steele

Players:
John H. Elliott
Roger Byron
Burl Kincaid Jr.
Harold Reynolds
Charles Hazelrigg
Charlie McKee
Charles Anderson
“Dinks” Jones

        

Letter to the Herald-Leader about Frank Jones

 

Mike Fields, Staff Writer
Lexington Herald-Leader Co.
100 Midland Avenue
Lexington, KY 40508

Sir,

Read your column Friday 19th and noted your piece about Jeremy Simpson and Mark Higgs.

In 1969, Bath County had a great running back-Frank Jones.  Frank was the leading scorer in Kentucky high school football that year.  Jones scored 38 TDs and 22PATs for a total of 250 points.

Jones rushed for a total of 3,361 yards in 327 carries in 1969.  Frank’s average per carry was 10.24 yards.

The above statistics ware taken from the Nov. 13, 1969 Louisville Courier-Journal.

Also, Frank Jones is the all-time rushing leader for Morehead State University.

Am enclosing a copy of the Courier-Journal article from which the above statistics were taken.

Yours for good sports,

W. Burl Kincaid, Jr.
Owingsville, Ky

Jones still holds the record he set in 1969 for rushing a total of 3,361 yards.  
Official records of this can be found at KHSAA internet link below.  Don

http://khsaa.org/records/football/individualrecords.pdf

Letters from Miss Jane and Betty Burton Manley

This week I have two letters to share with you. The first is one from Betty Burton Manley, who as a child lived across the street from the Kincaids with Mr. and Mrs. Charles Darnell.  You can read her letter first and then Miss Jane’s, who, you will notice, encourages Burl to write Betty. ~Ginger

Mr. Burl working in bluegrass seed.  If you’ve been reading the blog, you’ll know that a lot of Miss Jane’s letters were written to Mr. Burl while he was in the Midwest harvesting seed with Henry Ficklin, Uncle Ruby (Reuben Kincaid, Sr.), and R.W. (Reuben’s son).  
The front of Betty Burton’s note to Mr. Burl.
The note itself, which is transcribed below (complete with the spelling errors and incorrect grammar one would expect from a child her age).

Dear Burl
           How are you getting along. I will be glad when you come home. I miss you when I go to your mother and I don’t know where you could be. I forget where you are. Say Hello to Mr. Ruby and Mr. Ficklin for me. Are you still silly. I want you to hurry back. I want to see you and your mother want to see you to and we all want to see you and Mr. Ruby and Mr. Ficklin to. Have you found a girl yet if you haven’t found one I no one to watch for you her name is Ella Bohon.* Ha! Ha!
 
From your litter friend,
Betty Burton
*Ella Bohon Doggett Goodpaster.  Miss Ella is mentioned quite a few times in the letters, sometimes as a potential girlfriend for Mr. Burl, whose bachelor status was evidently of concern to the town!
Now, Miss Jane’s letter:

 Sunday Morning,
           We haven’t heard since last I wrote, but know you are expecting to hear from us.
           We are all O.K. Aunt May is having asthma, but has some medicine that relieves her.
            Daddy has discovered that the potatoes are rottening.  You know how he has always prided himself on his potatoes. Perhaps it is a wetter place in garden that he has dug from, and too, they are such nice big ones.
           I believe the damage by water in county is estimated at $500,000.  Everyone is telling of their losses.
           It did not rain Fri. night , Sat. or Sat. night, but looks like rain today. It is very hot this morning.
           Lewis is coming to take Burl down to Ruby’s place after dinner.
           Folks are talking about the Horse Fair now, what they will wear, their guests, etc.
           By the number of cars passing yesterday afternoon, there must have been a crowd at Morehead.*
           Marguerite and Dr. Lester** are considering cutting a door in “Guy’s room” on the alley and moving his dental office over there.
           Honey, try to find time to write Betty a card at least.  She said that Ruby had written her.
           Ella*** has come back to work again, starting tomorrow. I want to get finished up house-cleaning and rest awhile before my (or our) Iowa trip.
           Hope we hear from you today. We want to know how things are going since we have had so much rain.
Lots of love, 
Mother

*This was before the interstate was built.
**Dr. Lester was a dentist here in Owingsville and his office was in his house.  That house burned a few years ago. 
***There are two Ellas mentioned in Miss Jane’s letters: Ella Bohon Doggett [Goodpaster] and an Ella (who had a child the family called “Little Ruby”) who worked for the family and whose last name we don’t know, though Tommy Hodge says she is related to him.  We’re still trying to find out more about her, so if anyone knows, please send a message or leave a comment.

A Letter From Donovan Darnell, Dated 1933

Donovan Darnell as a child.  He would grow up to serve in WWII, graduate from Morehead State, teach Industrial Arts in Greensboro, N.C. and, most importantly, start a beautiful family (even though they do sometimes root for the wrong team in basketball!).  
 
Happy 2015!  Our first post of this new year is an old letter written by Donovan Darnell.  “Uncle Don,” as we all called him, was not only the brother of Doris Darnell Kincaid (Don & Bill’s mother), but also a lifelong best friend of Mr. Burl.  In fact, Burl and Donovan were close friends long before Burl and Doris got involved romantically. Don Kincaid is named after Donovan Darnell, but “Uncle Don” disliked his name and called his nephew “Jack” for years.
 
In the following letter dated 1933, Donovan would have been 15 years old.  Miss Sallie, his mother, was sick and in some sort of treatment center (perhaps a sanatorium – Uncle Ruby also went to one and we’ll share his postcards later) and he has written his beloved mother, filling her in on what’s going on at their home on Coyle Street in Owingsville (see pictures of Coyle Street at end of this post).  Doris, by the way, would have been 7 years old and due to contracting polio when an infant, was left with lifelong health problems.  She always said her parents, especially her father, spoiled her because of that, and it was often left to her brother to discipline her.  
 
Owingsville, Ky
April 30, 1933
 
Dear Mother:
          I hope you are feeling much better by this time.  We certainly have missed you since you have been gone and are anxious for you to get well so that you can come home.
         How is Aunt Rosa?*
         We are all well at home now.  Doris had a sick spell last week and missed three days of school but she is allright now.  She said if she could have an ice cream cone all the time she would not get sick. Mamma** has not been feeling so awfully good.  Daddy and I are allright though.
         Mrs Tanner is feeling better and today she is sitting out in the yard. Martha is awfully cute. The other day she walked over to Mrs. Palmer’s*** back porch and knocked on the door.
         I went to the union play Friday night and it was certainly good.  I wish you could have seen it.
        They have already started working on the cess pool in the chicken lot. The kitchen sink and basement both lead into it.
         They are still working on the new house Mr. Denton is going to build. They almost have the foundation ready.
         Daddy took Mrs. McCarty home again Saturday afternoon.  We wanted Doris to take a nap before she went but she said she didn’t want to. About an hour before daddy came home we brought Doris in for her to lay down a little while. Mamma said it was to late for her to take a nap and didn’t want her to lay down. In a  little bit she laid down and went to sleep herself. 
         Doris stayed at home the day daddy came in.  He came in at 11 o’clock. At dinner I saw Miss Inez. She said she knew Doris was glad to see daddy come home for she would tell about both of you being gone and the big tears would roll down her cheeks.
         Everybody I see nearly asks me when I have heard from you, how you are and when we are expecting you to come home.
         It is time for dinner now so I must say
        Goodbye,
        Donovan
P.S. Tell Aunt Rosa hello for all of us.
 
*Rosa Jones
**The letter is written to his mother – we’re not sure who “Mamma” is, although our guess is his grandmother.
***Mrs. Palmer lived in the house on Coyle Street right by the Baptist Church.
 
We don’t know who the other people are or where Mr. Denton’s house would have been.  Please leave a comment or let one of us know if you have information you want to share.
 

 

Donovan, Sallie, and Jefferson Darnell, 
standing on the Coyle St. sidewalk with
 Ida Jones’s house behind them. The Jones house is no longer there.

 

Sallie Darnell on Coyle Street in Owingsville, KY.  Note the old car in the background, pointing towards Slate Avenue. 
Family Drugs is currently located in the building on the left.

 

Sallie Darnell (in center) with two unknown women.  If you know who they are, please leave a comment or send us an email.

 

Cousins Donovan Darnell and Darnell Snedegar on a day trip to White Oak.  They were driven by Jeff Darnell (Donovan’s son) to a
   cemetery located on the back of what was once the family farm.  

 

Jefferson Lee Darnell (Mr. Jeff to most everybody) with Sallie and one of the children. Jeff Darnell was a banker and  also evidently a big softie when it came to sick little girls! He built several houses on Coyle Street and was mayor of Owingsville in the 50’s.

Jefferson Darnell’s driving goggles.  “Mr. Jeff” left home for Colorado at one point, aiming to start a business there, but ended up coming back home.  These goggles now belong to his great-grandson Jacob Kincaid, who has left home for China.  He didn’t wear the goggles!

 

Another Letter from Miss Jane: “These are trying times unsettled.”

           A super sweet letter from Miss Jane from the late 1940’s – hope you enjoy it! ~ Ginger 
                                                                                                                                 
Sunday Aft.
Dear Baby,
            As some one* said over the radio, “The ‘humididity’ is bad this afternoon.” My hands are sticking to the paper.
            I guess you will write today. We are so anxious to hear how things are coming.
            I went to Sunday School and Church.  There was a good crowd and Bro. Frey** preached a good sermon.  Have you been to church at Boone?*** Don’t forget to pray dear. These are trying times unsettled. I feel you do good by example, but say a word when you can to help some one. Of course you are the dearest child in the world to us. So bright and happy when well. You know when you are happy – we are too.
            I heard that Mr. Add Powers and Mrs. Alt Swetnam are to get married.
           We ate dinner with May, and she came to the table – is doing fine. Daddy will mail this now – Lots of love, Mother.
 
*She uses “some one” twice in this letter. According to my research, the word “someone” began to be used around 1900, and its usage surpassed that of “some one” around 1930. Miss Jane probably learned to write it as two words.
**George C. Frey was a long time minister of the Owingsville Christian Church.
***Boone, Iowa

 

 Boone Kincaid (Miss Jane’s great-grandson) in Chicago.
No, he wasn’t named after Boone, Iowa.

 

Old Recipes


Just in time for Thanksgiving, here are some old recipes that might be of interest.  Sorry if some of them seem incomplete, but this is how they are recorded in the old cookbooks from which I’m getting them.  I guess it was a given that everybody would know what to do next.  I’ll try to put more up before Christmas. ~ Ginger

Pie Crust
1 1/2 cups flour
3/4 tsp. salt
1/3 cup shortening
6 tbsp. water

Mrs. Chester Jones
Kendall Springs Homemakers

Butterscotch Pie
2 1/2 cups brown sugar
2 tbsp. butter
1 tbsp. cream
Boil to a wax and add:
Yolks of 3 eggs
1 cup water
2 tbsp. flour
1 cup milk
Boil together until thick.

Mrs. Chester Jones
Kendall Springs Homemakers

Rolls [Missionary Society Recipe Book / Owingsville First Church of God]
3 cups flour
1 cup milk – lukewarm
2 tablespoons lard
2 tablespoons sugar
pinch of salt
Dissolve cake of yeast in small amount of warm water.  Mix milk, lard, sugar, and salt.  Add yeast when milk is cool.  Let rise one hour.  Roll out.  Let rise again one hour.  Bake in hot oven 450 degrees.

Gladys Markland

Ma Bess’s Jam Cake [Missionary Society Recipe Book / Owingsville First Church of God]
2 cups sugar
1 1/2 cups butter
1 cup buttermilk
2 cups jam
2 cups flour (sifted before measuring)
1 cup chopped nuts
6 eggs – beaten separately
2 teaspoons soda
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 teaspoon cloves
1/4 teaspoon nutmeg
Cream butter, add sugar and beaten egg yolks.  Put all dry ingredients in flour and add alternately with buttermilk to butter, sugar, and egg mixture.  Add jam and nuts; then fold in beaten egg whites.  Bake in 4 layer cake pans 35 to 40 minutes at 350 degrees.

Filling for Jam Cake
1 1/2 cups jam cake batter
1 cup sugar
1/2 cup sweet milk
2 tablespoons butter
Mix all ingredients in sauce pan.  Cook over burner, stirring constantly until pastry thick or purplish color.  Spread between layers. (Cover sides and top of cake with any good frosting.

Unknown [Dorothy Butcher says Ma Bess refers to a “Ma Woodard” – Thank you, Miss Dorothy!]

Best Ever Caramel Frosting  [Missionary Society Recipe Book / Owingsville First Church of God]
1/2 cup butter
1 cup brown sugar
1/4 cup milk
3 1/4 cups sifted confectioner’s sugar
Melt butter; add brown sugar.  Boil and stir 1 minute or until slightly thick.  Cool slightly.  Add 1/4 cup milk; beat smooth.  Beat in confectioner’s sugar until of spreading consistency.  Frosts tops and sides of 2 9-inch round layers.

Louise Stone

French Beans [Woman’s Club Cookbook, 1954)
2 cans French beans
1 can mushroom soup
More than 1/2 lb. Chateau cheese*
Heat soup until good and hot, add cheese cut fine, and melt thoroughly.  Add 1/2 can Carnation milk; drain beans and pour into baking dish with soup and cheese mixture; add 1 tablespoon A.1 sauce and 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce, season with salt and a bit of Tabasco.  Bake until cheese is rather thick.

May S. Piper
Owingsville, Kentucky
*Chateau cheese was evidently a type of cheese sold around the 1950’s and was a bit similar to Velveeta but with a sharper taste.

Harvard Beets [Woman’s Club Cookbook, 1954]
Cook 12 small beets in salted water until skins slip off easily.  Cube. Mix 1/2 cup vinegar, 1 teaspoon salt, 1 heaping teaspoon flour, 3/4 cup sugar and 1 tablespoon butter.  To this mixture add cubed beets and cook until transparent.

Mrs. Ed Hickey
Bethel, Kentucky


1947 advertisement for Chateau cheese.

A Letter from WWI in Honor of Veteran’s Day

Jefferson Dawson Brother


           What follows is a letter written during WWI that Mr. Burl had kept in a box of his childhood mementos.  The “Dawson” who wrote the letter is Jefferson Dawson Brother, who was a relative. I’ve checked the WWI registration cards to try to find out who Addrou Kerns is, as well as Guy and Joe Arnold. I did find an “Augustus Adrien Kerns” who I think might be the Kerns who is referred to (perhaps “Addrou” is a nickname or misspelling) , but I have had zero luck finding out who Guy and Joe Arnold might be.  From what I understand, a lot of the Pioneer Infantries were made up of Black men, so that is one clue that might lead to discovering who they are.  Of course, if any of you reading this know the answer, please leave a comment or let me know.


A few comments:

  • Dawson mentions Burl, Jr. in his military uniform, and Don says there is a picture of his dad wearing it somewhere.  We still haven’t made it through everything, but if we find it in the future, I will post it on here.  Mr. Burl would have been three years old at the time this letter was written.
  • The letter mentions the flu.  The Spanish Flu pandemic was occurring at that time, and you can read what my great uncle Bill Karrick wrote about the flu in Bath County here.
  • The Cousin Henry referred to is Henry Ficklin, a preacher who baptized countless people in the area, often down in the Slate Creek at Kendall Springs. He was related to Mr. Burl on his maternal side (as was Jefferson Dawson Brother), and then he married Mr. Burl’s aunt (Aunt May) on his father’s side. 


Rugendorf, Germany
2 Feb. 1919

Dear Jane:

           Well I received that nice letter of yours some few days ago and it surely was a pleasant surprise.  Burl Junior certainly does look quite military in his uniform and when I come back will try and give him a little drilling. Believe me! it wouldn’t be long until he would hate the sight of that uniform.  But laying all jokes aside I was so glad to hear that you have all been well and I trust have escaped the flu.
           I came awfully near seeing Guy and Joe Arnold when we were on the front. One afternoon I was going down the road to our Reg. Headquarters and there were several squads of infantry men working the road and I asked one fellow who happened to be a Kentuckian what outfit he was in and he said Pioneer Inf.  I then asked him if he knew Guy or Joe Arnold and he said “yes” but they belonged to the Supply Co. and they were expecting him later there that afternoon.  So I waited all afternoon but never succeeded in seeing him.  Surely did hate to miss him too, because the only fellow I’ve seen over here that I know except those in our outfit was Addrou Kerns  from Sharpsburg. Wrote Willie [164 Inf] a card some time ago but I wasn’t sure of his outfit and of course don’t know whether he got it or not.
          Tell Cousin Henry that I still talk plain USA and haven’t acquired any brogue as expected.  Give my regards to all the folks and let me hear from you again sometime.  Dawson

          We hope you enjoy this letter.  I confess I have romanticized it a great deal and even have plans to frame and hang it.  I picture him writing it in a tent, huddled over and cold.  It is obvious that he misses home, so let it act as a reminder to all of us on this Veteran’s Day of the sacrifices that all who serve make on our behalf.  From our family to yours, Happy Veterans Day and God bless all who serve. ~ Ginger


 

Miss Jane Tells About the Horse Show and a Domestic Disturbance

Another letter from Miss Jane from the late 1940’s.                                                                                                             
                                                                           Sunday Night
                                                                            9:00 P.M.               
Dear Burl Jr.
          We have thought you might call tonight, but don’t suppose you will now.  Of course your voice would have sounded good. —— Yes, and it did sound good and we could hear you so well.
           I will be ready to come when you say the word (if all are well), but can’t say for sure about Daddy.  He wants to come, but thinks he may have to stay over his vacation period.
           I went to Sunday School and Church Services. Aunt May had Mary Bell* for dinner, and Little Ruby** had a real nice dinner – fried chicken, beans, ice-cream, cake, etc.
           People and horses have come in ready for the Horse Show.  All rooming places are filled.  They soon ate all that Mrs. Riddle*** had cooked last night.
           Elizabeth Brother**** came home Friday.  She drove through with Logan Ratliff.  Did you know him?  He certainly looks like the Botts’.
           Mr. Horton***** said that some one had been offered 70¢ a pound for their seed.  Have you heard anything like this?
           _______ ________ and his wife had a “big” fight the other night – broke out window lights, then she knocked him cold with her shoe – lick in temple.******
           Marguerite’s glass door and stoop is an improvement to that side of her house. 
           Hope you have a good week.
           Lots of love, Mother and Daddy
*Maybe Mary Bell Ferrin – she worked for Reuben Kincaid at his store in Owingsville.  The store was later Honakers.  Mary Bell’s father owned a hotel at Olympia (the blue house by Crooks’ grocery).  The owners of the Iron Ore Mine stayed in the hotel. 
**We don’t know who Little Ruby is but would like to know because this person is mentioned numerous times in Miss Jane’s letters.  We are pretty certain it is not R.W. (Reuben Kincaid’s son), and we think it is possible that Little Ruby cooked and cleaned for the family.  If you know who Little Ruby is, please let us know as we would be very grateful.
***Mrs. Riddle cooked in the restaurant that was where H&R Block is on Main Street in Owingsville. 
****Elizabeth Brother – may be a member of the Brother family that owned the hardware store at one time (Richart Brother’s family – that family is related to the Dawsons and Miss Jane was a Dawson.)  We don’t know who Logan Ratliff is.
*****W.W. Horton lived on Hart Pike and U.S. 60 and at one time was school board superintendent.
******Our lips are sealed!